But, Who took the photos on later dates? Foul play is very likely. So this sparked my curiosity. You can see a kind of nose and lips. A well-worn path. Fearing that these two strangers may bring the wrath of God upon him, he releases them into the jungle. However, if Kremers and Froon had found manmade ramshackle structures during their hike, such as the possible items viewed in this photo, its possible they had unwanted company. or Where did u see that picture ? It IS strange that the attempted SOS calls were so few. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. The simplest is for them to disappear. It would be interesting to know exactly where this photo was taken Is it along the main trail north of the Mirador en route to the stream crossing? That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. Its possible theres a painted insignia on the post to right of Kris. Theymade numerous emergency calls afew hours into their hike; logs show they managed to connect only oncedue to poor reception in the forest. Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. They place the evidence where it can be found, brining the matter to a close. Right hand is on her hip/slightly behind back, the left is hanging down on her side or in her pocket I cant tell. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture. Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. This observation of yours is amazing, the girls could have stumbled upon something and been victims. Hi Mohaiminul, you mention some good questions. Lisanne's bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally - but Kris' bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in her death. We have 5 people ending up dead, and the skulls of the girls are never found. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. In reality, foreigners are usually not the target of gangs. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall, or suffer other fatal accidents while traveling - this could've happened to these women as well. There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. Someone mentioned a Jaguar? From my understanding, the various teams communicate with each other about which parts of the case they are investigating, and collaborate occasionally to share information. Also important is who they met because two tall and very attractive new arrivals would certainly get all the boys tongues wagging. They didnt take anything with them for more than 1 or 2 hours max journey. I never noticed this before Surely they would put them back on if only for a little insulation. Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? There was enough evidence in this investigation to solve the case and possibly find Kris and Lisanne while they were alive. Im sitting here, with tears in my eyes and rolling down my cheeks.The transition from two weeks of lively holiday to stepping into the life of a real Panamanian family is just too much for me I want MOM and dad to hold me tight and tell me that everything will be alright I now feel like a small child of 2 yelling for her mother who is 2 meters away. I feel that unless they do or unless further forensic work has shown something more then, no matter what the experts in survival say, it is still only speculation and not proof. The causes of Kremerss and Froons tragic death have never been determined and the two bodies that were recovered have not even been conclusively found to be either of the girls. After a second look, I found that the Yahoo article specifically states that it was 17 foreigners belonging to another sect, but Yahoo was somewhat unclear Foreign can have a lot of meanings in this context. For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. Then there are no images until April 8, when 90 unsettling nighttime pictures were taken with flash in the middle of the jungle with timestamps between 1:00 and 4:00 AM. In Latin America, gangs, cartels and human traffickers work very effectively in unison to carry out organized crime. If you look closely at the top left part of this photo, you can see that, behind all the criss-crossed twigs and branches, there is a bank of rock. When someone does finally find her, its the last people she would want to be found by. This trip to Panama was a major life experience for Kris and Lisanne. Jalisco prosecutors said that three people still seem to be missing after a gang kidnapped a group of tourists at the Pacific resort of Puerto Vallarta earlier this month. Call us in Washington, D.C. at 1-888-407-4747 (toll-free in the United States and Canada) or 1-202-501-4444 (from all other countries) from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). In fact, to bring a dog for a walk is less common in general, because most dogs are permitted to go outside anytime they want. That is not a cave or a ravine behind her. Are they low-level or sophisticated or a combo or both? I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. However, when theres monetary interests involved, especially within key industries I give those ulterior motives some weight and consideration. Right above it. Do you think this could be at all relevant? From 508 onward. Why no video diary? This would cover natural causes and the rucksack contents being in perfect condition. Why not just kill them and leave it be? Thats why Kris stops in photos once in a while as if to say this way, right?. I also think those girls probably already perished before the dates on those daytime photos. Photo 509 was removed first. Constance Marten seen leaving court after appearing before magistrates charged with manslaughter of baby, Constance Marten and Mark Gordon blow each other a kiss in dock before court hears dead baby was found in bag in shed, Mum identified after dead baby is found on Canford Heath, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. Looking forward to reading what Bethzaida Pitti comes out with in the book she is co-authoring about the case. There are dead animals and skeletons strewn all across the ground. They could have been a target early on. If a cave was found that would be big news and there could be DNA evidence inside it. Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. Basically akin to that in the movie the predator. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. Search shoe with foot in it found. If you find any additional information, please let me know. She uses Kris phone, instinctively entering her own pin number. It is the morning of April 8th. They keep trying to call emergency. I could go on and on. What Really Happened To Two Dutch Hikers Who Disappeared In Panama? But in a country of just 300,000 people, how much tourism is too much? It does look like a manmade structure. Lisanne believes her dead. However, Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their bookLost in The Jungle. https://u.cubeupload.com/beavermatic/KrisKremersFullPhoto.jpg, Her hands are not tied behind her back! The goal wouldnt be to identify suspects or disrupt anyones life. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. Perhaps a piece of a tarp or a wrapper? It only makes the image look more detailed, but the detail is artificial and can be very misleading. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. Maybe the girls were not so clever at tech but they did not leave voice or video memos to document their predicament not goodbye messages for family. And one of the branches near the middle appears to have scales or a pattern not natural to a tree branch. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru volcano in Boquete - and never returned. Thanks, John. The internet does not have the most crucial information about the case. The point-and-shoot camera numbers its files in ascending order, the way most digital cameras do. This photo has been edited. Shes ducking down slightly and trying to shield her eyes from the sun with her right arm. The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? Sue Borries and Debra Ann Velleman are pictured in undated composite image. ): https://ibb.co/nqy80hS I dont really speculate much with psychic readings or energy. Apr 4, 2022 The number of international visitor arrivals in Panama surpassed the one million in 2021, after having plummeted to less than 700 thousand as a result of COVID-19 impact on tourism. I am not an investigator but I find it very strange that there were no witnesses found either tourists or locals on the trail. Haha, Im assuming this is a joke, right? Our team is planning to go to Panama later this year (2021) to collect information involving the case. Why would that be? For the next four days they travel. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. Their story captivated me for some reason. The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. The problem with the links you are providing is not that the links themselves are necessarily unsafe (they could be, but we wont test them)the problem is that ALL of your links require users to download some form of content. Oy vey I didnt catch this before, but seeing it now it sort of made my eyes water a bit. Over four days, 77 separate attempts had been made to call the cops - using the emergency numbers in both the Netherlands and in Panama. Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. But there are a few holesin this particular theory. Something I hadnt noticed before until I could see the photos upclose, (the one where she is hunched over) is that her face looks distorted; it doesnt look like her almost as if its some kind of mask. Her hair is also too clean and shiny for someone who has been out in the jungle for 8 days. Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. Bizarre Stories About Tourists Who Went Missing Far From Home Why would the perpetrators concoct all of the photo/backpack evidence? Hi Lisa, I wrote an in-depth analysis of Kriss bones here: The government officials involved failed at providing a thorough analysis/evaluation. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. The dog found his way home. It would be scarey.they could got attack by animal. You have to look hard. This whole incident is the stuff of horror movies and very chilling, even if it was an accident. The case needs solid evidence and/or solid witnesses coming forward. The blood on her leg is, again, a shadow. I think we are all seeing things that arent there. The smooth rocks would further back that theory up and the blue trash could have just washed up thereperhaps. What I find unusual is that in a panic they did not repeatedly try unless she kept pressing redial and that does not register as a second attempt. Its our fingerprints, the police say. The dark side of cruises - MarketWatch However, amiscommunication led to them arriving in Boquete too early for their program, which Kremersnoted was "rude and not at all friendly" in a diary entry. December 17, 2022. Easily done, I have done that myself several times. So, these were all indigenous locals influenced by another villager that had traveled abroad. In all the other pictures she is always got her arms visible, I find this very odd. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. The last half either had a wrong password, or simply no password at all was entered. It seems likely it was tribal. Its part of the relaxed culture. The real question is wether or not there is a cave or dwelling behind her. Something happened between the morning and afternoon of the 5th because it was in the afternoon that a wrong pin was entered and subsequently every time thereafter. If the culprit is not brought to book, the rest of the world says it is to protect the tourist industry. No sir, just ordinary incompetence. That looks kinda like a monster, Very interesting and thorough analysis. In this photo is another object (or two? This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. Yes, you are correct that numerous communities do work hard to bring criminals to justice. If you find more info about this, please feel free to share it. And I cannot fathom standing this way, hands behind the back and turned like that unless my hands were restricted behind my back. All facts are not available in this case. Both of these photos were photoshopped! The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. Sorry Chris, having re-read what you said at the beginning of your article and having stared at the photo a for a bit longer, I can definitely see the corner of a kind of pitched, thatched roof of a what looks like a man-made hut. It seems too strange to be an accident. To begin with his suggests either they walked into dense dark forest so there was no foto ops or it stopped being fun and started to become serious so somewhere not far beyond that stream did they met a fateful fork in the path which took them towards oblivion. The main areas of tourism in the country focus on business tourism, beaches, health and trade. Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon (lost unreleased/uncompressed original Really sad story, whichever way you look. I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. Sadly, shortly after, she meets someone she fears and call the police. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. It could be that the taxi driver couldve called someone and given them a heads up that two beautiful young ladies had just headed up the Pianista alone. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. Sometimes that is all that is found. You ask good questions. Is there much shareable knowledge about the gang in the area? Unfortunately the resolution is not high enough to identify any specific shapes, although it appears to contain the colors white and red. as soon as u see 1 photoshopped pic u know something is wrong,, the bag turned up to keep the police from searching the jungle. These photos dont have a lot of helpful information and the camera was tampered with. That would account for a canopy structure being built there. Seems like no one has taken off in the direction of the dog and what it could have offered us. Thanks and cheers. & the way the local police handled it seems so botched making it stranger, & why keep some pictures hidden from the public still, especially if the case is closed now? Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. That is the key. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. My opinion is that the girls met with foul play and were murdered. I believe that the LA Times article is more informative, so Ive updated the link in my writing above. It will be interesting to see where the photos were actually taken. As you mention, she is blocking the sun with her hand and keeping her head down. The reason being, many people assume that shes leaning over and looking down at the rock before her. Also, sometimes the investigations go dead because the government wants the story to go away in order for the tourist trade to not be hurt. There are no discernible scratches of any kind on the bones, neither of natural nor cultural origin there are no marks on the bones at all. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. Nobody is safe. Yo veo en el fondo de la foto 506, adjunto al muslo, la pierna y el pie izquierdo de Kris, una silueta de un hombre joven, con sombrero de copa alta y ala ancha (al estilo de los sheriff norteamericanos), con una manta blanca sobre sus hombros,tronco y brazos y un rifle o escopeta en posicin horizontal sobre sus manos. Sorry to send so many messages Chris, but as a policewoman I have never liked to give up on a case.. Hello Hi Birgitte, thank you for your comment. Seems weird. Brought to trial and prosecuted successfully: highly unlikely, less than 1%. The Velleman family had been in touch with several Wisconsin and Illinois representatives as they sought assistance from the U.S. government in the search and recovery effort. The fact that the backpack showed up on the bank of a river completely dry and unharmed downstream, with the camera and other electronics still functioning, shows that someone placed it there. It happens often and I cant even imagine how horrible it was. This article seems to have a crop from high resolution version of the above photo. Also, the parents did not release all the images. Theyre also exceptionally rugged and dangerous, especially during the April-to-October wet season. Out of the dozens of calls, only one managed to connect, but broke up after just two seconds due to the lack of reception. The dog wasnt in any photos, nor were the girls photographed after their disappearance. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. Why were they still in the jungle at 4:39 PM when they made their first distress call? Panama: Seven young people killed on trip to Gatn Lake Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. Kids in the area could have found the backpack and were just messing around with the camera. https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg. To the right of the body is a cross fashioned out of two poles, as is customary in Panama. It looks like a turtle shell hanging on the right side of the picture (its further up). Hi, do you know when and where this book will be available? Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. It looks like something hand-made. I also think that we are looking at man-made roof structure, but its not the last photo, right? Agreed the thing on the tree trunk looks man made but even if it is it is not sinister. But someone may not like it, so I hope that you will be very carefull! Two years later, a 23 year old American woman is strangled to death while walking the trails. Why did he leave them? I previously read that online, although it was a while ago and I cant remember where I read that. Yessss!! Thanks for the observation. Thanks for pointing this out. My first thought and instincts on the object you believe to be circular on the left is a cow skull and the fact its there is very strange indeed. I would prefer to stay anonymous and off the website, so you have permission to use my email. No Chris, I assure you, police investigations are routinely botched like this in the third world. The arbitrary pictures looked focused as if steady hands took the shots, suggesting they were intentional. And two months later, a pelvic bone and a foot - still inside a boot - were found in the same area, according to La Estrella de Panama. I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. Is there a head count of how many people have perished using the hiking trail in, say the last 10 years? One of them probably fell got hurt, a local found them said they would help and well they didnt help they killed them and dumped in River knowing the river would remove any evidence. I was visiting Panama and Boquette July 2014, thats when I first heard about this case and was following it ever since. Thorough job, very insightful and so well done Please visit Panama and further investigate. The backpack being found with all its contents including money and not even dirty let alone wet after weeks of constant rain-found a day after the area was checked. Ive just watched a video on YouTube.. An unusual one.. A psychic reading actually.. I live in a third world country and sometimes tourists come to grief. I think the last three photos of Kris show a definite change in mood. At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. 4. I am from Panama, and I know that there are way more dangerous drug and crime cartels active in remote parts of the country than officials want to admit to because the tourism would be affected. Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? Like jaguar? Excellent editing work, thanks to Justin. Not in the third world. Her hands could be tied behind her back but, if this is the case, then much computer editing was involved because other photos that come AFTER this one in camera sequence show Kriss walking ahead of Lisanne WITHOUT her hands tied behind her back. Likelihood the predator will strike again: 99.9% unless predator has died. Even the bones, the few that remain. Hi Chris, and thank you for your nice comments! And if suspects were clicking photos, and knew how to operate a smartphone, they would not return the phones. Despite search teams, which included dogs and. It must have been flowing in the river the police said. Im not saying that I dont think foul play was involved. There is no database of how many people go missing in national parks every year but the National Parks Service has at least 29 cold cases of people who have gone missing and have yet to be found, with the oldest case dating back to 1958.. Like you would get from being hit. Before you even pointed out the manmade ceiling structure I noticed that. She turned around and they snapped a photo. Remains of 2 American women missing after Panama plane crash recovered Not everything is a complex conspiracy, people. Rainfall probably washed the bag into the water. This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. The people in Panama may be afraid to speak, but in Europe, the USA and other Central American countries there are pods of people still working on the case. This story struck my heart. Dogs are very independent here. This makes no sense. So, when locals look at you sideways as they glance, glare, or even stare at your shorts and sandals, do not be offended or surprised. One question sticking to the government interference and coverup, with the deletion of a photo (nr, 531?) The whole scene is odd why is Lisanne (if it was her) standing miles away? If I remember correctly half of a pelvic bone was found that belong to the other girl so I think we should give the other girl some thought. Think about it. Maybe a struggle or fall? I have seen comment to suggest that they could have made the trip to the divide returned and then gone to another place but then why no more fotos on either phone or camera? From the summit, they decided to go in a bit deeper, or just took the wrong exit path by mistake. Cheers, Reg. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. The relationship between pets and owners is different in Central America than in developed countries. If you are in the middle of the jungle, lost, and desperately trying to find service, why waste your battery by logging into your phone. Once they examined the phones, investigators unraveled a confusing and grim timeline. incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. Also, #509 was deleted after all of the other photos were taken, which means someone went back and deleted it after all of the nighttime photos were taken. If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul There are shots of them exploring the jungle on April 1 which appear to show that all is well. It is high noon and they have no way of telling which direction to go. I know that in previous photos there are trenches like this one naturally occurring throughout the jungle due to erosion, but this one doesnt appear to be from that. Does anyone see what I see? Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. I implore those who are intrigued by this to read his books. Adrien McNaughton Was Surrounded by Family, He Left Behind Books He Wrote in Secret Code, The Door Was Open, and Baby Lisa Was Gone. Even though both kept contact with their families daily through messaging and calls? Why would they remove them? The rock in the riverbed is very distinctive was this location ever found and explored? They came to learn a language and embrace a culture. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. In Latin America, it is as common as drinking coffee. They lose their money and leave Panama with their lives. I think someone took them there. Fact. I read that the backpack belonged to Lisanne Froon. They were lost very shortly after arriving at their destination, And then they made a huge mistake by heading due north to find their way back home and they should have been going to the southeast. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. Thank you so much for walking the walk. Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. Reading this reminded me of another photo the girls took of a branch with what appears to be red plastic attached to it.