Well ask you to confirm this for your first post to Facebook. Have you read the book? In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Sorry not sorry. Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. Thats my life.. More hairs there. simply to create an atmosphere of hatred towards a person who, in all probability, has been wrongfully imprisoned. ``This woman was a possible double murderer, so we had to protect the people out there,' Hege said. Opinion: the ideas that a person or a group of people have about something or someone, which are based mainly on their feelings and beliefs, or a single idea of this type.. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. . "Andrew was diagnosed with a serious medical condition in December 2022 whilst he was in Dubai," his representative told The Sun Online. That documentary points out that, despite the bodies of the two victims supposedly being exposed for several months, their condition remained relatively undisturbed by weather or animal activity. I hope she rots in hell. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. Barry Grube, one of the few, if not only, police officers sympathetic to Patricias cause, noted that Andrew didnt seem particularly frantic while authorities searched desperately for his wife and son. Officers responded just after 5 a.m. Wednesday to an area near the intersection of Martin Luther King Drive and Carolyn Coleman Way and found , "The Wall Street Journal just so happened to have a supportive op-ed ready to publish within hours of the meeting. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. Previous to Teresa's current city of Loveland, CO, Teresa Katrinak lived in Estes Park CO. They also revealed that the Duke had pleaded with the King for an increased Royal responsibility as he feels 'he deserves to still be treated like a senior royal'. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. Omg so well put! Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. I do. After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Now retired, he declined ForensicFilesNow.coms invitation to spar directly with Patricia via a podcast. Buckingham Palace and the Duke of York have been approached by MailOnline for comment. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. All Filters. Hashtags such as #FreeTopG and references to Matrix opposition have flooded social media since the influencers arrest in December. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. Police said the couple moved in together and had a 1-year-old baby daughter. On December 12, 1994, Joann answered a phone call from a woman shed never met, Patricia Rorrer, her husbands onetime girlfriend. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. It was just assumed to be crib death. Patty is my cousin. THE COPS SET HER UP. She definitely did it. How so? She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? Nailed? ANDREW KATRINAK OBITUARY KATRINAK Andrew G. Katrinak of Little Rock, Ark., beloved husband of the late Josephine Gawlowicz Katrinak, died peacefully at his home on Sunday, October 31,. Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. That woman has no soul. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Andrew Katrinak is never more than a foot away from his telephone. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. Locked up. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. Still, no good leads materialized. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. What will the next pandemic be? It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. He lived in 1910, at address, Connecticut. Andrew married Mary A Katrinak (born Ondek). I dont think so. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. DNA tests showed that strands of hair at the crime scene and in Joann Katrinak's car matched Rorrer's hair. Play it now! The FBI even included a written report to that effect. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? Andrew described his existence with Joanne and Alex as a little Camelot., Ex-spouse off list. They moved into her house in Salisbury County, staying together for about two years. The real killer is Rorrer! Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. The state police targeted Rorrer as a suspect that summer, and troopers traveled to North Carolina eight or nine times, Kohuth said. Davidson County sheriff's deputies searched Rorrer's house in Linwood and volunteered to keep an eye on her after hours. The influencers doctors have thus requested for Mr Tates release from prison so he can receive medical treatment in Dubai. Not sure why anyone is defending her. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. This weekDuke of York said he does not want to leave his mansion in the grounds of Windsor Castle despite telling friends he fears he will be unable to afford its upkeep if the King cuts his 250,000-a-year grant. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. Officers escort Andrew Tate, centre, and his brother Tristan Tate to the Court of Appeal in Bucharest. They blocked each exit to make sure police couldn't extradite Rorrer before they saw her. Beautifully said Cliff! Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. Theodore Kohuth, the baby on top of the dead mother. She should have received the death penalty imo. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? Or did they? On Wednesday morning, sheriff's deputies escorted Rorrer to meet with Fritz. At 4 a.m. Wednesday morning, several dozen of Rorrer's relatives and friends surrounded the courthouse, said Capt. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. Prosecution leader McIntyre, when interviewed, laughingly dismissed him as a nut in an effort to trivialise Traupmans input. Prince Andrew was seen smiling while riding a horse this morning despite tensions with King Charles who reportedly asked him to leave Royal Lodge. Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. I noticed quite a few errors myself. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. King Charles is planning to cut the Duke's annual . Incriminating words. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Tate has a dark spot on his lung, most likely a tumour, a spokesperson told Mail Online. It makes me sick. They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. It says that Andrew reported the cut phone lines and broken pad lock was reported to the police at 10:30. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. I very much doubt you are. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. Davidson County Sheriff Gerald Hege said it was a case of fatal attraction. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! Get up-to-the-minute news sent straight to your device. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? If they were unable to get a DNA reading the first time, why the need for a second examination? He retired as a general foreman at Bethlehem Steel in 1981 after 30 years of employment. 5 years prior to all this happening! Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. Dial-a-problem. Animals would have for sure. Yes, that doesnt mean shes unquestionably guilty, but it does mean her case has been relatively exhaustively examined (and its not over) and it means that your assertion that you are right and the guilty camp are wrong (and that this should be obvious) is absurdly overplayed. This time, not surprisingly, the FBI did achieve a match. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. I would have liked better her being put to death! Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. They retested the hair for DNA evidence with updated technology definitely Patricias hair case closed. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Andrew J Katrinak, 68. ``I told her I would see that her horses was tended to.'. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. No charmed life. Prince Andrew is refusing to leave his home at Royal Lodge and instead is demanding a mansion "fit for a King", according to royal sources. Living on the edge (literally! For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. DNA also doesnt lie. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Cop defends accused. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Martin Domin Editor, Mirror Fighting. To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. Lived In Drake CO . Required fields are marked *. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. View Andrew Katrinak's record in Drake, CO including current phone number, address, relatives, background check report, and property record with Whitepages. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. M.L. Patricia Rorrer has been portrayed as a bully, petty thief, neglectful horse owner, and heartless killer or a sweet, caring friend railroaded by authorities desperate to solve a double-murder case that snagged worldwide interest. Your email address will not be published. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. ALISON BOSHOFF: As Broadchurch star Andrew Buchan and Leila Farzad become a real-life item while sexual electricity crackles between them in new BBC drama, did an earlier role of his give a . Tragedy also touched Patricias life. Red-faced and crying, the tall woman wore an orange-and-white prison jumpsuit, flip-flops and ankle chains. Police took a tearful Rorrer to the Davidson County Jail in Lexington. And NOBODY saw her at all? The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. Thats all for this post. Court records show she is incarcerated in the Lehigh County Jail. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. Traupman died in 2016. But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. In recent weeks, the King has reportedly asked all members of the royal family to tighten their belts and to expect less money from the Duchy now owned by Charles than in the past. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Highly charged case. Especially mice! Walmart woe. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Discover address history, phone, age and more. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. Andrew has not demanded this. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! Thank you and well said. His wife's vehicle was discovered in a parking lot 100 yards away from their house. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. Unbloody vehicle. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. Police believe Rorrer abducted and killed her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son in Pennsylvania. Media galore. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. He lived in 1928, at address, Connecticut. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Her daughter, Andrea Bruner, 14, baby-sat for Rorrer's baby daughter last fall. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. Rorrer waived her extradition rights late Tuesday afternoon. How is it that these women are paroled? If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Police identified the pair as Joann and Alex Katrinak. Hoist by your own petard. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do).
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